Silver Fang

Silver Fang, I think you may be over analyzing it.

In my opinion, I think the guy that writes Naruto has done a shit job with the majority of his character development over the course of the entire series. But yes, I see a bit of what you're talking about with Kakashi, but at the same time, team 7 was Kakashi's very first group of genin to teach. Maybe he figured Sasuke needed the extra attention to work better as a team mate seeing as he might have had more confidence in Naruto and Sakura to be able to help each other. eh, but then again Sakura was completely useless in the beginning of the series. *shrugs* Like I said, I think it was all bad character development from the beginning.

I don't think so. I see what you're saying, it may seem like i'm nitpicking, I apologize. But, to me, these things were just always self-evident to me. I understand that Team 7 was Kakashi's first batch of students, but he did a pretty poor job. Like during the Chunin exam, I think he could've trained both Sasuke and Naruto if he really wanted to, he just didn't. He gives Naruto to Ebisu to work on his basics. If he knew Naruto's basics were bad, why would he wait until right before the final rounds to say something. It seems like he wanted to wait until he was able to pawn Naruto off on someone so he wouldn't have to do it himself. So, with that, it seemed like he didn't have much faith in Naruto to beat Neji in the first place. Because I doubt just the basics would be enough to defeat Neji. In fact, I think it's clear that Kakashi thought Naruto couldn't beat Neji, because earlier, when he was watching Neji fight, he says "Even as strong as Sasuke is, he's no match for Neji." and Kakashi obviously has a higher opinion of Sasuke than Naruto, so i'm sure he didn't think Naruto could win. With Naruto, Kakashi just seemed negligent, and didn't take anything involving Naruto to heart. Not just Naruto, he messed up with Sakura as well. He was too soft on Sakura. Compare the way he talks to Sakura, to the way he talks to Naruto. He's never hard on her, and he never gets attitude with her, like he does with Naruto. Sakura is someone the needs a mentor to be hard on her, or she won't try, or get any better. Kakashi just ignored Sakura, and let her do whatever she wanted. He never disciplined her. So, she didn't improve until she worked under Tsunade. To be honest, the only one Kakashi ever came down on was Naruto. He never did that with Sakura, or Sasuke. Pre-timeskip, Kakashi just seemed like a lazy teacher that doesn't really want to put forth real effort, unless he has no other choices.

If you don't read the manga, you may be in the dark on this. May also contain spoilers for anime watchers only. I'll put tags around it just to be safe.

If you've read the Kakashi Gaiden, then you know how Kakashi used to be when he was thirteen, and we all know how Sasuke was pre-timeskip. So, from looking at the two, which one do you think was worse? I mean, which one was more arrogant, meaner, just had the worse attitude in general.

I go with Sasuke, but my friend thinks that's it's definantly Kakashi.

You do have a point there. Technically speaking, Naruto is a large uncontrollable threat in regards to his kuybi powers. But heres something else to think of. When Akatsuki remove a tailed beast from it's jinchiruki, it kills the jinchiruki. But if you kill the jinchiruki, could it not just as well release the tailed beast? They hint at the fact that if Naruto dies, the nine tails will die with him, thus the nine tails lets him use his power. But I think that if Naruto or any of the tailed beasts were to out right get killed, the tailed beast and/or its energy would break free either into a nuke blast or a raging beast. Maybe Kakashi knew this and tried to contain Naruto at all costs as opposed to letting him explode into an unstoppable power. *coughbrucebannerhulkcough*

I bet Kakashi would kill Naruto if he absolutly had to.

not that it matters now, considering he is dead.

Naruto is very valued. Jinchuriki are used as secret weapons. The elders even wanted to keep Naruto on lock down, unless it was an emergency. Jinchuriki are often used as secret weapons to protect, and fight for, their village.

I think Kakashi may go through with it, and just live with the regrets. That seems to be his style. I mean, i'm sure if he went through with it, he'd feel guilty. It'd be more deaths for him to mourn. I started this same thread on another site, and majority said that he couldn't do it, no matter what. I think he might, it depends. Kakashi is kind of hard to read sometimes.

Just so some know, I am current with Shippuden. People always wonder if i'm current on things since Kakashi trained Naruto in Shippuden. I admit Kakashi did help Naruto in Shippuden, which is good, and Kakashi seems to have alot of faith in Naruto (saying he can surpass the forth), but Kakashi's attitude seems a bit fake to me. I just asumed Kakashi stuck with Naruto, in Shippuden, for two reasons. Those two reasons are the lack of Sasuke and embarrassment. Let me elaberate. If Sasuke were still in the village, I don't think Kakashi would be training Naruto. I think he'd find other reasons to stick with Sasuke and not train Naruto, like teaching Sasuke more about Sharingan and Chidori. Then embarrassment. Think about it. When Sasuke was around, Kakashi spent all of his time on Sasuke. He asumed that just because Sasuke was a bit "like him" that he'd change and turn out like him. He devoted most of his time, confidence, and love to Sasuke. He had all this confidence that Sasuke would be this great ninja, and trusted him enough to teach him Chidori. Even though Sasuke is a power hungry arrogant kid whose whole life is about power, vengence and being better than everybody. So, Kakashi took a gamble in teaching Chidori to someone like Sasuke, because Sasuke was bound to mis-use that power eventually. But, Kakashi thought he could change him, he had enough confidence in Sasuke to be willing to take that gamble. Now we have Naruto, the "flunky." Kakashi obviously didn't trust Naruto to the extent that he trusted Sasuke. Naruto is the one Kakashi underestimated. He didn't seem to hold Naruto as highly as he held Sasuke. He also didn't seem to think Naruto was as good as Sasuke. Since he thought Sasuke was trustworthy enough to handle Chidori, but tells Jiraiya that Naruto couldn't be trusted with Rasengan. So, Sasuke is the one Kakashi put most of his money on, and Naruto was the one he didn't trust too much. Then in the end, Sasuke (his golden boy) was the one that attacked a comrade, and abandoned Konoha to train with a traitor. So, in the end, Naruto proved to be the more mature and loyal student. So Kakashi is ashamed that he didn't see that earlier, and that he invested all his money on the student that had no problem ignoring his teachings, and running away. I say this because, in Shippuden, Kakashi is all over Naruto. He's telling Naruto how proud he is of him, and that he loves him, and that he can surpass Yondaime. Where was all this confidence and love in part one? In part one, Kakashi didn't take a second glance at Naruto. Now, all of a sudden, he loves him. I mean, why'd it take Kakashi so long to see how great Naruto was? Tsunade, Jiraiya, Iruka, Sandime, even Gamabunta (after one afternoon of knowing him)& Gamakichi saw Naruto had wonderful potential. But for Kakashi, it takes three years with no Sasuke to notice Naruto, or so it seems. Now, Kakashi fans, don't get offended. I love Kakashi, and i'm a big fan of him, but as a mentor (to Naruto anyway), I don't think he handled him very well. You'd think he'd take to Naruto right away considering

Naruto acts alot like Obito, whom Kakashi claims was his best friend.

Kakashi isn't a bad teacher, but he isn't really cut out to be a team leader. He's more suited to be a private instructor. He could've become a private tutor, and taken Sasuke on as a private student, and Naruto could've gone to another sensei, like Gai. True Gai already had a team, but i'm sure one extra wouldn't hurt.

In terms of treatmeant, I think Kakashi spoiled Sasuke, and neglected Naruto. If you need further elaberation, then just tell me, and i'll explain what I mean.

the gates almost killed rock lee,

the rasengan that naruto learned was a piss weak form of what it could be

kakashi knew what rasengan could evolve into, knowing this and narutos tendancy to jump the gun on it, well makes sence, also with the kyubii inside him, it wasnt wise for naruto to push so hard so fast without fully understanding the kyubii, which he didnt at that time

and kakashi would die a thousand times in place of his students, so knowing gai taught lee a double edged move is something he wouldnt do.

thats just my guess

That makes sense, but imo, I don't think that could be it, because Naruto has lots of chakra to pull off Rasengan, and no matter what, I don't think he'll ever be able to control, or fully understand the Kyuubi. So, he can't sit around and wait for that. Naruto is a bit immature, so that may have been why Kakashi didn't trust him, but Sasuke is immature as well. So apperently Kakashi thinks highly of Sasuke, and Naruto, not so much. I mean, Sasuke is a kid whose whole life revolves around power, vengence, and being better than his teammates. Kakashi seems to encourage this behavior. So from loooking at things, Kakashi cares about what happens to Sasuke, but doesn't care about Naruto being captured, and killed, by an evil gang of ninja, since he didn't want Naruto learning a jutsu that could help him.

I agree with you on that point. It didn't make sense to me either for why Kakashi would criticize Jiyra for teaching him something powerful. It was one thing back when he saw Lee bust out a gate release move and criticized Gai for teaching him a forbidden jutsu. But Naruto did need a power move to keep himself safe.

Kakashi is my favorite.

btw, how far are you in the series? and do you read the manga?

I read the manga. But, I think Kakashi waas also out of line for saying anything to Gai about teaching Lee gates. It wasn't any of his business what Gai teaches his student, so he had no right to say anything. I mean, Kakashi gets an attitude and tries to burst people's b***s when they criticize the way he handles his students, but it seems, all he does is criticize other teachers. He can dish it out, but he can't take it. I mean, Gai had a very important reason for teaching Lee Gates, and he tells Kakashi what that reason is after Kakashi criticizes him. Kakashi spoke out against Gai before he had all of his facts straight, or before he had all of his facts period. Which was why I was happy when Gai snapped on Kakashi and told him why he did it, because Kakashi shut up then, and realized he was wrong to speak out against Gai for something he knew nothing about.Sorry if I sound harsh, but I was really dissapointed with Kakashi for criticising Gai. He was out of line there.

Yeah. Don't get me wrong, I love Kakashi. He's my favorite character, but sometimes, I find his behavior questionable or out of line. For example, he trusts, and cares for, Sasuke enough to teach him Chidori, but he later criticizes Jiraiya for teaching Naruto Rasengan. I understand him teaching Sasuke Chidori, I mean, I think there were other options, but I guess Kakashi taught him Chidori to protect him. I don't mind that. But why would he not want Naruto learning Rasengan to protect him from the Akatsuki. Naruto needed protectiion, same as Sasuke, so why was Kakashi against him?

It's no secret that Kakashi favored, and cared the most for, Sasuke. But, from looking at things, doesn't it seem like Sasuke is the only one Kakashi cares for? It just seems like he didn't really care anything about Naruto. He didn't really interact with Sakura much either, but I just assumed it's because she's a girl, and kind of fragil, so Kakashi doesn't know how to deal with, or approach her. I don't just mean training, but treatment in general when it comes to Naruto & Sasuke.

to kill a member of team 7(Naruto, Sasuke, and/or Sakura)? I mean, if he, for whatever reason (like a mission, or they've become traitors, ect.) had to do that, do you think he could, emotionally? Is he emotionless enough to go through with something of that nature? What do ya think.