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this guy does a good job of explaining

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8pSPfZFysg]YouTube - Swine Flu, Knowledge Enables Prevention[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br80HSGGPek]YouTube - Swine Flu now in phase 5[/ame]

4 to 5 happened pdq. There's no telling if summer will slow it down or mutate it.

ARE WE SO ADDICTED TO MEAT THAT WE CAN'T SEE WHERE THE SWINE FLU CAME FROM?

By Kathy Freston, AlterNet

A virus like swine flu is a completely predictable outcome

of our cruel and appallingly filthy factory farming systems.

http://www.alternet.org/environment/139803/are_we_so_addicted_to_meat_that_we_can%27t_see_where_the_swine_flu_came_from_/

Undoubtedly, some animal welfare people are hoping that swine flu will serve as a wake-up call for humanity, that the "groupthink" in support of intensive farming might move toward thoughtfulness about the health hazards and cruelty of intensively confining animals, and that governments will pass laws to make these "confined animal feeding operations" (CAFOs, the industry term for "factory farm") smaller, cleaner, less cruel, and less dependent on drugs--which are used to keep the animals alive through the filthy and stressful conditions that would otherwise kill them in much greater numbers.

if we're seriously going to eat these fuckin animals then yeah.

I've been in the ag business, a couple different dairy farms, there's a ton of em around here :P Most of the milk n cheese produced here stays local.

From experience I can say that if you're milking more then 300 head at any 1 farm its too big. cows being milked need to be kept separate from dry cows (not producing) and heifers (haven't produced yet). It may involve useing several barns/farms and milking parlors for bigger farms but too fucking bad.

This is our godamn food supply we're talking about here >.<


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H1N1 Flu. A Tale of Evolution, Economics, Power Politics and International Law.

So H1N1 flu is indeed a swine flu, and it first evolved in pigs in the USA, not in Mexico.

Similarly, the so-called Spanish Flu responsible for the 1918 H1N1 pandemic did not originate in Spain. The 1918 H1N1 pandemic started in Kansas, at an American military base. Spain was just the first nation to acknowledge the pandemic's existence.

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scary...

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBeKB7aKzOs]YouTube - Mexican Flu Outbreak 2009: SPECIAL REPORT by Dr Leonard Horowitz[/ame]


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DHS Sets Guidelines For Possible Swine Flu Quarantines

The U.S. Department of Homeland Security has sent a memo to some health care providers noting procedures to be followed if the swine flu outbreak eventually makes quarantines necessary.

DHS Assistant Secretary Bridger McGaw circulated the swine flu memo, which was obtained by CBSNews.com, on Monday night. It says: "The Department of Justice has established legal federal authorities pertaining to the implementation of a quarantine and enforcement. Under approval from HHS, the Surgeon General has the authority to issue quarantines."

McGaw appears to have been referring to the section of federal law that allows the Surgeon General to detain and quarantine Americans "reasonably believed to be infected" with a communicable disease. A Centers for Disease Control official said on Tuesday that swine flu deaths in the U.S. are likely.

Federal quarantine authority is limited to diseases listed in presidential executive orders; President Bush added "novel" forms of influenza with the potential to create pandemics in Executive Order 13375. Anyone violating a quarantine order can be punished by a $250,000 fine and a one-year prison term.

A Homeland Security spokesman on Tuesday did not have an immediate response to followup questions about the memo, which said "DHS is consulting closely with the CDC to determine appropriate public health measures."

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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgovilJbmAM]YouTube - Nightline: Swine Flu Man Made? - Combines 3 viruses from 3 continents[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sMSokcnJRU]YouTube - Wayne Madsen says, 'Swine Flu not naturally occuring'[/ame]


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Thats pretty fucked up. Priming the population of the world by releasing ready made viruses into the population in preparation for deadlier versions of the same virus... wtf. Those ready made viruses will most likely mutate into the deadlier versions they are making vaccinations for to sell to governments for profit. These companies hold humanity's population/future in it's hands for the sake of making money. WTF! O_O


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its one on those "give ppl this disease so they wont get this worse one" like the different inoculations for pox for example.

flu has a little more leg room to adapt n mutate tho then say tuberculosis.

A virus is like any other living thing, it wants to live and flourish and propagate. It can adapt in a number of ways; what can serve as host, communicability, how long it can stay dormant. Its through adaptation to viable environment/host we get mutation.

This current H1N1 is a pretty wicked bitch. Its not a animal to human disease. It is passed human to human and strangely human to pig (the only animals we've known that got sick from this from us with this virus thus far). You're in some fucked up territory when your ailments can attack your food supply. Or if you prefer; imagine you can transfer your illness to your dog or cat or Guinea pig....

All things take some time to come to full fruition and virus are no different. I find this first pandemic round in late spring not a sign of hope but a bell of "oh shit dats bad". It now has June July August Sept Oct to do whatever its gonna do before ppl in the northern climbs of the northern hemisphere come into the flu season. It gives big pharma time to rape govt funds for antivirals they develp and patton. Come fall there should be enough doses of antiviral for this crap; somebody knows this virus pretty well cuz they fucking made it. This did not naturally fucking occor in nature. I've heard a few big pharma names kicked out there as to who is responsble for this bullshit... I cant point a finger and say these fuckers did it at this point as I dont have all the info and research I need yet. -_-;


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few interesting things...

Swine flu fears subside, but second wave looms

In previous outbreaks, new infections in fall and winter were most deadly

The rest of the world may be exhaling at the apparent easing of a potential swine flu pandemic, but some global experts are tempering their optimism with concerns about what one calls "the fall question."

That's the uncertainty over whether the current outbreak is only a preview of what's to come, an echo of previous epidemics — including the 1918 flu — that saw mild first cases of infection in the spring followed by more severe second and third bouts in the fall and winter that brought widespread infection, illness and death.

A lil history ...

The echoes of the 1918 flu are unavoidable. Historical accounts long have suggested that the first pandemic wave appeared in the U.S. in the spring of 1918, causing illness, but no appreciable deaths above normal.

Dr. Jeffery K. Taubenberger, an influenza investigator in the Laboratory of Infectious Diseases at the National Institutes of Health, said cases may well have turned up in the spring, but evidence suggests they certainly did by the summer of that year, causing out-of-season infections and deaths among young, healthy people.

Those early cases were followed by far more fatal second and third waves in the fall and winter of 1918 and 1919 in the United States.

"When it got cool enough to spread well, the virus exploded," Taubenberger said.

The thought was that the virus initially was strong enough to cause serious illness in some places, but not fit enough to launch a pandemic. Quickly, however, it progressed from causing uncomplicated influenza infections to fatal pneumonia, eventually leading to an estimated 650,000 deaths in the U.S. and between 25 million and 100 million around the world.

and the whole priming the public thing...

That model has led some scientists and ordinary people to question whether coming down with a mild case of swine flu now might actually protect against more serious illness in the future.

So far, government health officials say they still can’t tell whether infection now would confer immunity, said Dr. Anne Schuchat, a deputy director with the federal Centers for Disease Control and Protection. And Taubenberger said flu viruses mutate so quickly, there's no guarantee that this virus will be the same in six months.

Other flu experts said they would recommend avoiding exposure because the virus is still capable of causing severe disease, as seen in the cases in Mexico.


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Lady, Do you think this is a goverment plot to get people to trust our president by getting people sick so he can "save a nation"? The swine flu sounds fishy to me.


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Lady, Do you think this is a goverment plot to get people to trust our president by getting people sick so he can "save a nation"? The swine flu sounds fishy to me.

I think that many govts in anticipation of new natural deadly virus kick cash and privilege to big pharma that lobbies the shit outta everyone from the family practitioner to the senator. I think they develop stuff that can potentially kill people. I think different virus are "tested" on an unknowing public all of the time. Some of it is the whole get this so you dont get something worse but some virus have a higher mortality rate based on factors like age, region, economic status etc.

I think this strain of HIN1 is most likely a few years old; it was contained and thusly covered up by the Bush admin. It spreads fast in unsanitary and crowded places and without some costly pattoned big pharma remedy you're in hell with it.

Obama won't be a hero unless it turns very dedly this winter, kills over 30,000 americans this winter then is contained and nearly irradicated. This does however further the cause for health care reform.


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it comes from a lab, it is man made


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Fourth U.S. swine flu death reported in Ariz.

PHOENIX - A woman in Arizona suffering from a lung condition has apparently become the fourth person in the nation to die with swine flu, authorities said Thursday. The Maricopa County Health Department reported that the woman in her late 40s died last week of what appears to be complications of the new strain of influenza.

Laboratory tests confirmed that the woman was infected with the flu strain.

Only 40 years old...

The other deaths in America were in Texas — a Mexican toddler and a pregnant woman — and a man in his 30s in Washington state. Each suffered from other illnesses when they were infected with the virus. Arizona had 261 confirmed cases of swine flu in nine of the state’s 15 counties as of Thursday. The state’s first case was identified on April 29.


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NEW YORK - A school assistant principal who was sick for several days with swine flu on Sunday became the city's first death linked to the virus and the nation's sixth.

Japan H1N1 flu cases soar as WHO mulls pandemic alert

Japan shuttered more than 2,000 schools and kindergartens after it confirmed that swine flu cases had reached 129 with authorities warning that the real number of infections from (A)H1N1 could already be in the hundreds.


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Teacher dies of swine flu in New York: report

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NEW YORK (AFP) — A teacher at a New York city school who had been in critical condition for days died after being infected with the A(H1N1) virus, local media reported.

The death of Mitchell Wiener, the assistant principal of Intermediate School 238 in Hollis, Queens, marked the first swine flu fatality in New York state, The New York Times reported.

Six swine flu deaths have now been reported in the United States, the country with the most A(H1N1) deaths after Mexico.

Meanwhile "city officials announced that five more ... schools (in the same area of the city) had been closed."

The paper said Wiener, 55, was "overwhelmed by the illness despite treatment with an experimental drug," citing Ole Pedersen, a spokesman for Flushing Hospital Medical Center, where Wiener had been a patient since Wednesday.

The World Health Organization said Friday that the disease is continuing to spread worldwide.

The latest WHO data showed 8,451 people in 38 countries confirmed to have caught the A(H1N1) virus.

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more school closings


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