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Star Wars Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

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Yeah, nothing will ever be as great as the original trilogy. I'm a bit concerned were just gonna throw in a bunch of force ghosts in a cluster fuck of shit and giggles because we can type thing. But seeing Lando pilot the falcon again was gold. Having Palps back doesn't make much sense. How does Rey have 1000 generations within her? Did she Kyle Katarn it up in the Valley of the Jedi? Might as well have Dassan in there. XD Also another Blue saber? Kinda lame... I was hoping she'd go Bastila Shan with a double sided since she always used a staff before she starting using the force.


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Unless they changed the reasoning with the new Disney Lore double-bladed lightsabers were pretty much an extreme rarity in the SW universe at this point in time (the only real user being Darth Maul at this point in time and the Inquisitors from Rebels) so I'm not overly surprised she stuck to a traditional lightsaber (again not entirely sure what's considered canon anymore but I do know in legends double-bladed sabers were not in use (Maul only chose it after learning of Exar Kun and his mastery of the weapon) and they were never really a big thing with the Jedi as a whole so Rey probably never found the schematics in the information she took from the tree (if I remember correctly double-bladed sabers were developed by the Sith much like the original lightsaber was)).

With the new canon a blue saber is perfect for her and I'm assuming she took the crystal from the remnants of Anakin's destroyed saber before she left the ship (if it wasn't the reason the saber exploded in the first place) since, at this point in time, finding a kyber crystal would be extremely difficult since Palps pretty much made it illegal to own them and without prior knowledge she wouldn't even know where to find one (fuck this new lore though, makes it harder to explain this stuff). Plus it'd have to be a pre-used crystal as with new lore a crystal only gets it's color by forming a bond with the user and there are only two real colors that we know of coming from this (blue and green, there are no explanations for the other colors outside of red and white in canon atm (which is only brought forth by making a crystal bleed (red) and healing a bleeding crystal (white)). Unless this movie takes place quite a few years after The Last Jedi there is no way Rey would of had time to sufficiently bond with a crystal to bring it's color out (but based on her actions her blade would be blue regardless).

Palps being back makes sense if they're going the Dark Empire route here but I'm just assuming he's a force ghost (as much as people would have you believe Sith were capable of becoming force ghosts, just not in the same fashion as Jedi). Then again we might be seeing him back in his prime inside a clone body (that or his ass was Snoke all along and moved his essence into another body after Snoke's death). I'm assuming he's going to be the thing pushing Bitch Vader forward (yea I renamed him) towards a new goal.

Rey had over a 1000 generations of Jedi text and lore in her possession when she left Luke so it's nor far off to say she has that in her if she read the texts (which I'm sure she did as there is no other way for her to build a lightsaber unless Luke's ghost stuck around to teach her, we'll know more once the movie and more trailers come out).

My only real question is why are we calling this Rise of Skywalker? Are we implying that Rey is actually related to the Skywalker lineage in some way? I've been seeing theories on Twitter that she might actually be the same as Anakin being born directly from the force using him as a template (meaning old Palps continued his Master's research). Does Bitch Vader come crawling back to the light side after not getting his way becoming what he was meant to be? Did Han and Leia have another kid they never mentioned to anyone or did Luke get lucky one night only to result in a child he never knew of? This name choice confuses to fuck out of me and it's the only real reason I'll watch this movie (I still treat the other two as AU movies having nothing to do with the actual SW canon) when it comes to DVD/BD (again I refuse to see it in theaters).

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I bet it's called Rise of Skywalker because it'll be revealed that Rey actually is a Skywalker, maybe even Luke's kid. The second movie did leave enough openings to fill in gaps for this third movie. When we see luke in the second movie he was living a hermit life like Yoda was on Dagobah and the flash backs we saw were of Luke middle aged. It could be revealed that before or during the establishment of his jedi academy he fell in love, maybe with Mara Jade from the books, had a kid, had a falling out with Mara, maybe never even knew of she was pregnant.. Lots of speculation here. Lol.. but they could make it happen in the movie. It would make sense for her to be a Skywalker, same with Kylo. And if palpatine is back they both may have to team up and rise up against him.. but then again it looked like kylo was reconstructing his Vader style helmet. And I could be completely wrong.

The original trilogy and the prequel trilogy was all about the Skywalker lineage. It would only make sense for this movie to continue that. And all good things that come to an end always tie back into the beginning somehow. By bringing palpatine back and focusing on a Skywalker defeating him would bring the entire collection of movies to a good end. Then any squeals after that could have more free range.

I did read that the next trilogy will be set in the old republic and I'm very glad for that. Instead of having to focus on specific blood lines or only a handful of force users we'll get movies with a variety of jedi, aliens, completely new plot lines, etc. 


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I'm not entirely sure how I feel about the Old Republic being the setting for the next trilogy. While I'm glad they're going with it I'm scared about what they'll consider canon going forward because as it stands I really like the current, legends continuity we have with KoToR and TOR (I say legends because we're not entirely sure what current Old Republic stuff is even considered canon as of right now). It'll be a huge miss for me if they write out a lot of the currently established characters (like Revan or Vitiate (the Sith Emperor (though he's dead now it'd suck if they completely wrote him out)).

It's pretty much been established that Rey isn't Luke's kid (and it's pretty unlikely Mara is canon anymore though it'd be cool if she was) but I wouldn't be surprised if she is somehow related to the Skywalkers (technically Kylo is a Solo with Skywalker blood so the only living Skywalker we know of is Leia though it's been established her role won't be as big anymore due to Carrie's untimely passing). Then again J.J. could be completely fucking with us and throw a huge curve ball at us. Who knows? With the way these movies have panned out so far there really isn't anything that could surprise me anymore (fuck Palps coming back is honestly par for the course now that Snoke is dead since we have no big baddie to face right now (Bitch Vader will never be anything comparable to Snoke, Palps, of good old Granddaddy Vader)). I was watching a youtube video today speculating that what we heard was actually a holo-recording of Palps that they find on the wreckage of the Death Star which could very well be (using it as a plot point for some sinister plan he was working on in secret before he up and died that Snoke was pursuing and Kylo will maybe finish, who knows).


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So that clip at the end.. Rey with the red lightsaber. I'm wondering if thats a clip just to throw everyone off and its just part of some vision that takes place in the movie, or are they really going to do some kind of role reversal and we'll have Rey turn dark side but somehow Kylo redeems himself? Hmmm..


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The whole scene looks CGI and awful tbh, and why are the blades like Kylos? No one is able to make a stable red saber blade anymore? Its clearly some type of vision like when Luke went into the cave on Dagobah. Its pretty much why I didn't share the trailer. I've gotten a little tired of these misdirect trailers, they're so over done now you can tell when their just a misdirection. The Walking Dead has been the king of bullshit previews the past couple of years. I think thats where most my burn out comes from. I have a lot of friends that send me clips overly hyped about it to where I get annoyed and shit all over it, and then I turn out to be right. XD I won't even watch the "sneak peak" clips from Talking Dead. It's always some boring scene with a dramatic turn around to look at something with a surprised face... and then its nothing noteworthy when the episode comes on.

After reading about how JJ Abrams had a detailed outline of how the 3 movies were going to go, and Rian Johnson was like "nah fuck that I'll just do whatever I want", I hope they can make everything come together with this movie. I liked both movies, but it does feel like they just did things just to do them last flim with Snoke's death, and all the big show pieces. None of the villains have been really convincing. General Hux is a really weak character to where I didn't even remember his name from the first film until I saw him again in the next movie. Phasma was a SUPER interesting character but she feels wasted. I honestly think she could have filled a Boba Fett type bad ass role. Benicio Del Toro's character was interesting, but I feel like he died too if I remember correctly... So everyone except Kylo and Hux dies, lets throw Palps in... which I also don't have an issue with, but damn they could have set up the foundation for it in Last Jedi. I just feel like Abrams should have done all 3 films to keep the coherency of it all.


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You have to remember that light saber crystals were extremely hard to come by during the Empire's grip on the galaxy with Palpatine outlawing the ownership of such crystals (as well as lightsabers). Plus what crystals there were were under Palpatine's control and were used in the formation of new weapons (like the Death Star Super Laser which used kyber crystals to power and shoot it). I'm assuming that what we see is a vision Rey has sometime in the movie or that Palpatine finds a way to take over her body (a power he did have) and uses whatever crystal he can find to power the lightsaber. That or she's using the red crystal Luke had (yes he has a red crystal he found in his journeys that he wore around his neck) and is using it in place of a her blue crystal (though this is a stretch and I don't know if that crystal was cracked like Kylo's is or why you'd use a red crystal in place of a stable blue). All in all it's most likely nothing serious since I highly doubt they'd make Rey fall to the dark side. Then again who knows in this "Star Wars makes no fucking sense anymore" world we live in since Disney bought the rights. Plus, being totally honest, that's the most ridiculous and stupid lightsaber design since Kylo's and I've seen plenty of bad designs.

Quite honestly that little sneak peak kinda ruined my hopes of this movie being any good beyond the things that made the other two movies worth watching. The only real reason I'm going to see it once it hits streaming platforms is because I want to see how Palpatine plays into this, could really give a fuck less what else goes on in the movie (outside of Rey's development as a character). The last two films were such a disappointment considering all the lore they threw out the window to make them.


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