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The Walking Dead Season 8 Discussion

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The trailer is here! 

Edit: It's come to my attention that everyone is freaking out about the end of the trailer. No Rick hasn't been in a coma and all of it isn't a dream. As a comic reader, I know what it is, I just can't tell you. :P

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Awesome. :D This season should be great and finish up the Negan arc. At the end of the trailer I'm assuming a time skip takes place. I don't see how these people can keep coming across endless enemies without eventually getting into a period of stability that could last for years. If he had a Rumpelstiltskin moment and everything was a dream it'd be the worst ending for the series. XD If it is a time skip, at least Carl will be re-cast if he's still alive and I wont have to look at that horrible hair anymore.


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If it's a time skip they won't recast carl. He's already old enough to play the timeskip part.. he hit puberty and should only be maybe a year or two older from when the show started, when he's 8 years older. XD They may change his hair though. 

This last season did a lot of foreshadowing for comic readers, and every time they throw us a bone, like the end of this trailer, it gets blown out of proportion with dumb fan theories by those that just follow the show. The whole dream thing gets brought up in every show these days... I remember when everyone thought Jack was dreaming the whole series of LOST. 

You can come back to this post and see how similar it is to the comic when the season is over with.

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In the end of the comic arc, The 3 communities make a final stand and defeat Negan. Dwight takes over as leader of the Savoirs and becomes the 4th community in a trade deal... but with the show having the garbage people which are not in the comics, it could be 5 communities. Rick and Negan have their finale 1v1 where Negan breaks Rick's leg leaving him crippled for the foreseeable future.... I haven't gotten much past the next villain yet in the comic. Even then, Rick spares Negan and keeps him locked up in a cell.

 


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I'm tempted to read that spoiler now, but I'll wait. XD

3 minutes ago, DeathscytheX said:

I remember when everyone thought Jack was dreaming the whole series of LOST.

That would have been the best ending for that show. XD


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4 episodes in and this season is constant action. Theres been some great battles so far and the initial plan of getting all the bulk of the saviors trapped in their base by walkers was great. Although I still don't understand why Rick didn't just instant shoot Negan on the spot when he walked out the door in that first episode. He was a sitting duck. -_-; Carol is like Rambo now. XD So many people from the kingdom got mowed down. That must have been a 50 calibur machine gun. Those rounds were exploding them with the shear size of the rounds. x_x

I've read some theories that people think Rick will die in this season and the flashforwards of him being old was him dreaming of what could have been instead of foreshadowing of what is to be. I think the show would survive without Rick, but I think they'd have to kill off Daryl first or people would expect the show to focus on him or Carol next since they've been there since the beginning too. Screw Carl. Nobody would want to watch the show focus on him. XD 


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Good riddance Carl. XD I'm glad I won't have to see your hair anymore except in one more episode. XD I feel horrible for Michonne tho. She loved that boy.


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I figured they'd kill him off eventually. He was outgrowing the part being a year older every season. He was probably going to be taller than Rick soon. Plus he's going to college. Now we know what the scene was in the first ep when Rick was so distraught. Its when Carl finally dies/turns, and has to be put down. The dream sequence that accompanied it makes less sense now since Carl was alive in it.

Now the question is will there be another time jump after All Out War in which Judith is Carl's age at the beginning of the series? Michonne and Judith are pretty safe at this point for a long while. You can't keep piling on the trauma to one character. I think Jerry or Ezekiel dies by season end along with another major character. Rick, Carol, Morgan, and Daryl are the last of the original cast remaining.

From the preview of the second half of the season, It looked like Dwight went back to the sanctuary. I think he goes back and pins Regina as the traitor by playing off his gunshot wound as if she left him for dead after killing everyone. Eugene will keep his mouth shut because he is terrified of Dwight, doesn't really get along with Regina, and has done his own traitorous act in letting the Doc and Gabrielle go.  Regina is killed off, and Dwight keeps the info flowing. They've done a lot of departure from the comic at this point now that Carl is dead. It will be interesting to see how things play out.


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I stopped watching 2 years ago when Neegan did the eeni meeni miney mooo thing. But reading Carl is dead, I might watch it again. Good riddance. 

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I am putting myself to the fullest possible use, which is all I think that any conscious entity can ever hope to do.

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 I'm so glad Carl is dead. XD now I don't have to see that horrible hair anymore. XD it was such an emotional scene and I feel horrible for Michonne, but when I heard that gun shot I was happy. I'm a horrible person. XD

Rick vs Negan in this last episode was pretty good. I'm surprised Maggie didn't warn that new woman about the saviors. 

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I was sorta pissed the first episode and a half still dealt with him. I almost wish he didn't die so I wouldn't have had to watch 90 minutes of grieving over him. They ruined his character from the comic, but I get that on a different medium people just can't deal with a more ruthless and darker character. Eh. The way you felt was the way I felt when they got rid of Andrea. I was so happy she died, worst character ever on the show.


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I was expecting a war and a bunch of characters to get killed off... and instead we got some exploding bullets and an ass ton of commercials to extend out the episode. -_-; I wanted to see Negan die even if he did live in the comics. I hate that Carl was referenced so often and that his words were what made Rick keep him alive. I hope next season they never mention Carl again.


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They spent more time duping the comic readers this season than anything. The whole dream sequence with old rick and his cane was a play on the comic. At the end of All out War, Negan breaks Rick's leg in the fight causing permanent damage, he has that exact hairstyle and beard. They also made it looks like Negan was dead for a good 30 seconds for dramatic effect. It would have made sense now that Carl is dead though. The whole plot device to having Negan in a cell was because Carl would often come and talk to him as if Negan was his mentor. I'm surprised they'll pay JDM just to rot in a cell outside of some forced scenes. I know he does some other stuff later in the comic, but I haven't gotten that far as I'm waiting for Compendium 4 to come out before I start reading. Also Eugene escaped from the Saviors fairly quickly and went back to making bullets for Alexandria. The whole off site facility was never a thing as him and Abraham brought the machinery back to Alexandra when they found it. The way Denise died was how Abraham died in the comics, and Dwight became the leader of the Saviors post Negan. Oceanside wasn't a thing, and was so lame on the TV series... all they did was throw Molotovs at some randos. XD  WTF they wasted all that scene time trying discovering them, escaping, and then going back to convince them to join the fight for such a small impact.

It sounds like Maggie is going to get into an arms race with everyone else or something. This next season or two will probably be filler arcs. The whole animosity between Maggy and Rick never happens in the comics. I honestly don't know how Jesus could go along with an underhanded plan. The lady in the van is also a character that happens much later in the comics... I don't know much about her either but I know she showed up recently... that's a long game cameo they pulled for some reason.

Negan is still the biggest baddest villain TWD ever has had, and I doubt they'll ever top it. I think the show has peaked at this point, I'd be surprised if it lasted another 3 seasons unless they can somehow pull a Vikings and revitalize the story. They need to move on past Carl, he was getting too old for the part, and I called his death like 2 seasons ago. If Rick died, the show would be over. Its not like Rangar's many sons, there is pretty much no one else that can lead this show forward other than Andrew Lincoln. As much as I like Maggie, she's no Lagertha, not even close. The cast is way too bloated still. I was hoping Tara died because shes a huge annoyance and not a very good actor IMO, Henry should have died, Gregory will eventually die, Daryl can die too for all I care. Hes just become an emo always pissed off pointless character. They pretty much ruined him after he got caught and listened to Easy Street a million times. I have my suspensions that not many will die until the next villain, and if that is the case, it better happen by next season finale otherwise this show will get super stale.   

With that being said.. XD

 

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