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http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2011/06/google-attempts-to-take-on-facebook-with-new-social-networking-service-google.html

Can Google be social?

The Internet search giant whose mission is to organize the world's information will try to organize the world's people with a social networking service that is designed to rival the growing influence of Facebook.

The service called Google+ will let people share their lives and do the kinds of things they already do on Facebook such as post status updates, photos and links. Its focus is on sharing with small groups rather than your entire universe of friends. (That's probably what led Google to offer to buy Dave Morin's Path).

It's initially only open to a limited number of Google users who will eventually be able to invite others.

This is a risky gambit for Google, which has had a string of social networking flops, most recently Buzz. It's also a project that co-founder and chief executive Larry Page has personally overseen.

Page knows Google has to make the transition from a Web that connects pages and a Web that connects people. Facebook threatens Google's hegemony as the Web's most popular destination and one of its biggest moneymakers.

All that sharing taking place on Facebook is largely inaccessible to Google and other search engines. And Facebook is consuming a lot of people's time. In May, 180 million people visited Google sites, including YouTube, according to research firm ComScore. More than 157 million visited Facebook. And those Facebook users spent an average of 375 minutes on the site versus 231 minutes on Google.

Why is that important? Advertisers are watching. It's not clear that gains at Facebook are costing Google –- yet. But clearly that could happen.

Does Google have it in its DNA to become a social destination? It clearly has been adding plenty of talent that have the know how. Google+ is part of an urgent effort underway for months under the codename Emerald Sea.

But many observers say Google has moved too slowly to counter Facebook. Even Google's chairman Eric Schmidt, the company's CEO for more than a decade, recently admitted that.

Schmidt said he "screwed up" in social networking. "I clearly knew I had to do something and I failed to do it," he said.

One of the most major screw ups was a social networking service for Gmail users called Buzz which automatically included their e-mail contacts in the network, setting off a firestorm. Google changed the service and in March settled with the Federal Trade Commission and agreed to 20 years of privacy audits.

Google seems to have learned a lesson with Google+ about people's desire to control what information they share. That may get the attention of the folks at Facebook.

Will you use Google + ?

I've been needing to write an article... basically google and facebook knows everything about everyone at this point. There is no more privacy on the internet. O_O and now if google does a popular social network to kick facebook to the curb.. then damn.. google will have all information about everyone. Thats scary to me. Once they get their own version of facebook connect running, then its all over! x_x


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http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2011/06/Google-attempts-to-take-on-facebook-with-new-social-networking-service-google.html

Will you use Google + ?

I've been needing to write an article... basically google and face book knows everything about everyone at this point. There is no more privacy on the INTERNET. O_O and now if google does a popular social network to kick face book to the curb.. then damn.. google will have all information about everyone. Thats scary to me. Once they get their own version of face book connect running, then its all over! x_x

I don't use G Mail so I doubt I'll use Google Plus.

I don't know if Google & FB know everything about me. I keep finding other people with similar names to me or my other accounts. Some won't share what they know without being paid for it so its not worth it.

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On a creepy side note guess who got a DWI in april?....

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Yeah I need to really ignore that person's police blotter....


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yeah.. forget that person..

btw, its not about a person's name.. its about their IP#. Google and facebook know everyone by their ip#... they know soooo much. x_x


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yeah.. forget that person..

btw, its not about a person's name.. its about their IP#. Google and facebook know everyone by their ip#... they know soooo much. x_x

The only thing I find via my IP is stating that its a private IP owned by my router or various others who share my IP.

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The whole "FB and Google know everything about you" is by name and IP. Realistically speaking you should only be putting things you want public on the Internet even if the site claims to be private and secure. IP is moot considering it's a public address. However your full name, phone number, local address, photos of your kids, what your interests are...etc are all things that could esily be found when searching your full name or part of it.

Back on topic though. I've been using G+ for a while now and I'm pretty happy with the progress they've made. If you use twitter AND facebook then you'll definitely be pleased with Google+. It's almost like both sites merged. There's still some functionality issues that they need to address but overall use is pretty good. I love how easy it is to share content with the people you want. Facebook's groups act the same exact way as Google's circles with the exception that Google's circles are much easier to organize and find. Almost everything requires you to select a circle so it makes it far more secure.

If anyone wants an invite just PM me your gmail address. I've got unlimited invites and google's lifted the max number of users who can join per day now :).


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The whole "FB and Google know everything about you" is by name and IP. Realistically speaking you should only be putting things you want public on the Internet even if the site claims to be private and secure.

Exactly. But a large amount of people put everything on the internet. Even in private messages. I honestly need to block google ads from displaying in PMs and in private forums here. Any page that loads with a google ad or a facebook connect script on it gives google and/or facebook full access to all content on that page. Sure they can say that their scripts only scan the page for relevant keywords for ad displaying purposes.. Yeah.. but considering that google ads and facebook connect scripts are on the majority of all websites now, google and facebook can track your internet browsing based on your IP. They can track via your IP# all sites that you loaded with their scripts/ads on them and then datamine it to get a full profile on everyone on an individual level.. its a crapload of data but advertisers pay big for consumer data and targeted ads. And even if you are on a public IP it could be a bit more private, but once you log into google or facebook then can pretty much determine who a person is based on their previous data for your account/ip/sites you visit.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100622/0340389918.shtml

Regardless if google calls it accidental data retention or not... google is in the business of substantial data mining. And now that facebook connect is on almost every website now just like google ads.. facebook has the potential for massive data collection of everyone on the internet.


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At this point, the only way to keep ALL your information COMPLETLY private is to never use the internet. Oh wait, you've been using it, which means you've put something online and nothing ever really gets fully deleted so someone somewhere has your info. The chances of them doing anything with it are slim, but yeah.

And people wonder why I never use my real name on ANYTHING online. ><


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At this point, the only way to keep ALL your information COMPLETELY private is to never use the Internet. Oh wait, you've been using it, which means you've put something online and nothing ever really gets fully deleted so someone somewhere has your info. The chances of them doing anything with it are slim, but yeah.

And people wonder why I never use my real name on ANYTHING online. ><

:picknose:

The next step in their diabolical plan must be to force anyone with a user name to now be legally known by that instead. People with multiple user names will have to choose to be known by only one of them. Any further new user names beyond that by said user without informing them will be met with swift legal action under now said false identity.

.... just kidding....


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Will you use Google + ?

maybe later sometime but not now

pretty sick of the whole soc networking shit


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